|Are you downloading songs, movies or TV shows?
Your Internet Service Provider knows your IP address and can send Copyright Infringement Notice to you soon. So, what should you do if you have just received a copyright infringement letter from your Internet Provider or government agency like RIAA, MPAA and other?
Here you can find the best tips:
Copyright Infringement letters should generally be ignored. If they can't confirm that you ever received the notice, they're even less likely to go after you.
If you have received a copyright infringement letter, don't respond to it, don't visit the website provided, ignore threats of lawsuits and settlement offers, and if you are actually distributing the material in question, stop immediately.
The best way to avoid such a notice is prevention and education. If you have a wireless router and it is not secured or password-protected, you need to lock it down immediately. If you run BitTorrent client or other sharing software, it is a great idea to check for material being offered for upload by the software and remove it.
RIAA, MPAA and other Government Agencies don’t have your email unless you give it to them by replying. They send a complaint to your ISP with ONLY your IP address and your ISP figures out who that IP belongs to, at what time and your ISP sends out an email accordingly (read more here - You Could Be Liable for $150k in Penalties Per Downloaded Song)
When you torrent, you and all of your peers connect to a tracker and share your IPs. Copyright holders (Sony, Time Warner and etc) connect to the tracker, and collect the list all connected IP addresses. Then they give the list of "copyright infringers" to each ISP and the ISP basically informs you that they know.
ISP literally sees all your internet traffic, so they might monitor your every move. Now, if copyright holder wants to nab you, all they have to do is either bribe/threaten ISP to reveal your internet traffic,. Then, after they have your IP and logs that prove you've downloaded copyrighted file, they can legally and openly request the rest of your data from ISP.
If you don't want to get any copyright infringement letters or even be known on the internet or have your ISP have access and records of every site you visit – ExtraTorrent recommends encoding and securing your connection with a VPN. The VPN (Virtual Private Network) is a service which routes all web traffic through a set of servers that hide your real IP from public view to ensure privacy and safety.
ExtraTorrent’s Best Choice is Trust.Zone VPN.
Trust.Zone VPN replaces your IP address with VPN server IP address, encrypts your internet traffic and has no logging. It means your IP address will never be revealed by ISP or tracking agencies and you will be 100% anonymous while browsing the web and torrenting.
Trust.Zone is under Seychelles offshore jurisdiction. There is no mandatory data retention law in Seychelles. The laws of Seychelles are very friendly to Internet users. Under Seychelles jurisdiction a court order would not be enforceable and since Trust.Zone don’t store any logs - there is nothing to be had from their servers.
Specially for ExtraTorrent fans - you can try Trust.Zone VPN for free. Hurry up!
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|posted by (2016-02-13 05:09:35)|
|Got Trust.Zone VPN and am happy with it. Noticed that some European locations are very fast.|
|How to handle a copyright letter two different ways:|
Step 1) Open it, wipe your ass with it, mail it to Hollywood.
Step 2) Burn it.
|Step one is a very bad idea. Mailing someone poop with your dna and name and address is generally a bad idea.|
|posted by (2016-02-17 15:57:18)|
Stuff your mailbox with lots of packed old newspapers (prevents mailman from putting notice in in the first place.
Step 2 use a po box for your bills and such but NOT for your cable/internet bill. Pay that manually before the bill is due (no mail from them). Insist they go paperless!
Step 3 be certain you set your torrent program to everything encrypted (helps prevent MITM spying)
Step 4 use a vpn if possible but even that can bite you in the rear since you have to relinquish personal info via credit/debit card.
Step 5 Get and use Linux (harder for others to infest your computer with tracking software and spyware)
Step 6 store all downloads on an encrypted external hard drive - easier to hide/dispose of if necessary. Leaves nothing on your computer for civil courts to find Note: in many places it is illegal to fail to turn over demands by civil courts for passwords. If you gave password for computer but nothing on it then you could counter sue and be rich!
Step 7 get together and get the laws changed! Copyright laws violate freedom of speech and only serve to promote greed. It is unconscionable to have copyrights last nearly forever (90+ years AFTER the author dies - what if the author is a corporation with indeterminate lifespan?)
No copyright should ever last more than 3 years. No patent either.
|you guys should add a donate box on extra-torrent so people can easily donate pay-pal would work|
|alexperez, see 'donate button' in the footer.|
People can donate Bitcoin only.
|posted by (2016-02-20 06:43:57)|
|i just wipe my ass with them|
|And if you are dumb enough to believe a VPN will protect you...... then you get everything you deserve.....|
|posted by (2016-02-20 18:25:51)|
|be careful with x-art content, they will sue you and if you infringed they will win, at the very least it will result in HUGE legal fees, even if you win, i was caught up in this and it cost me nearly ten grand to resolve|
|posted by (2016-02-21 14:37:52)|
|How To Handle a Copyright Infringement Letter? HAHAHA Best Thing to DO is Open The Letter And Sh1t On It. And Then Get on With your Life. that's it|
|posted by (2016-02-23 20:01:11)|
|get a house brick package it tape letter to it and send back not known at this address lol|
|I have questioned this before. In the example it says your internet connection was used to copy or share a movie, tv prog or song. But dealing with torrents we don't deal with these examples all the time. We often have a part of a movie etc. If I have 200Mb of a 1.4Gb film I practically have nothing of worth till I get the whole file. 200Mb isn't 'the movie'.|
Love to know if the legal definition of a movie etc is a random selection of data that cannot be viewed as a movie and of a size that constitutes a (variable) fraction of the movies full data size.
|I envision a future where implantable data storage is purged remotely from a giant AI hub. Copyright notices come in the form of them accidentally deleting some of your childhood memories because they matched too closely to a copyrighted work. The thought police are coming. Lucky for Murica they don't think too much now anyway.|
|Not True They Have Software that can detect if your hiding your ip address...WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY|
|swayzesghost avatar This might be a paid vpn ad, but just wanted to mention that Peer block(ex peer guardian) has worked great for me the last 7 years and is free. The company that supplies the block lists seem to be really good at finding the right isp to block. Every time I suggest peer block people will say it doesn't work but it's been very obvious that it works for my DL habbits, whch exclude a lot of music btw. I almost lost my cable before I started using peer block and I went several years without a letter after starting using it. For a little while blocklist was charging for frequent updates and I started getting letters since I wasnt paying, which suggests to me that it works if you update regularly. they let you update often again without paying btw.|
|I would replay with a baked good gift. Maybe a muffin or a pie or something because they have a problem when people aren't nice.|
|A friend of mine has just had a letter fromTCYK. Anyone heard of this? What do you suggest he does? He wants to fill in the form and pay by instalments. I've told him to ignore it but he has already made contact with them.|
|Whenever I get legal letters like debt-collection etc. I always draw a diagonal line across it and write Return to Sender on it with an alternate address: (the street address of a caravan park 2,000 miles away). They always give up. Never open your door unless you know who it is. The Bad Debts are usually purchased by agencies for 10c on the dollar. They go after the weak antelopes only.|
|posted by (2016-03-13 08:56:00)|
|Every single letter I got was fake. They looked legit, but when I asked for more info, they knew nothing. Be very careful.|
|Over the years I've gotten about 10 music copyright infringement emails from my ISP. When I use uTorrent I turn PeerBlock v 1.2 back on, and they immediately stop.|
|@ #18: The diagonal line is good, but to write 'return to sender' on it with a hand written alternate return address..? that would not work.|
If you meant you would write a false, hand written, forwarding address - that would not work either.
Having been a letter carrier for 34 years, a forwarding address that is not printed on a PO yellow sticker would not fool anybody.
A collection agency pays to find out the addressee's new address, and we must provide it to them (unless the addressee moves and doesnt tell us his/her new address).
Best thing to do..? strike out the address and write - 'no one by that name at this address'.
|My ISP sends email notices to my email address i use just for spam. Never see 'em anymore because I never go look at that email account. I'm poor so they couldn't get shit from me anyway. Can't get blood from a turnip|
|As usual, the comments here are predictably brilliant.To ignore an ISP's email warnings of termination of its services, due to violating it's terms of agreement by downloading copyrighted material, is especially so.|
|Trust Zone works a treat. Only issue is every few days it goes down for hours, and even trying different servers also fails to connect. Works very well, but running the kill switch (when it goes down) can be seriously irritating|
|i just dont care delete it move on|
|I just leave my router PW open, hook 5 laptops to it and download, easy to prove multiple comps on my network. They cant prove who done it if more than one PC name was on the network and it open to the public. My IP but not me doing it, i'm just an innocent guy thats been done wrong by someone misusing my wifi.|
PIA Folks... Private Internet Access.... i have seen these letters before... and then i went with this vpn and guess what? no more letters. NO Logs, P2P Friendly.... and yes i tested it with some sketchy downloads... it works!!
|All opinions are valid. Some people have nothing to lose and don;t care about legal ramifications. Others do want to protect what they have and must take precautions. I use Trust.Zone VPN but just for uploading Big Papi music. It is enough to hide me from MPAA/RIAA it is not enough to hide me from felonious activity. One needs a much more layered approach for being a criminal. As for Seychilles and logs that is great but we connect to VPN servers that are not located there. I don't see a Seychilles VPN server in the list. Please explain how this matters.|
|PIA here hence no letters and no drama no servers in Seychilles either, but frankly who gives a f*ck!|
|I tried using trust.zone but after the trial every time i tried to pay for it my internet dropped out. I gave up in the end.|
|betternet seems too work pretty good for a free vpn on windows the firefox addon is a lil twitchy but not bad for free|
|Step lol. Live in Canada. Love it. ignore it. the laws are not there yet.|
|posted by (2016-07-24 16:45:13)|
VPN too slow for my iking, as per point by rigmar.
I use a company that OPENLY STATES IT WILL NOT contact customers based on ISP "guesswork" which is how they come after most people, and my provider also contractulaly states your total freedom to visiti any "live" site you wish and your history nor your peronal details wil only be given over in a case of terrorism or child protection. They never block any torrent sites and the speeds are fantastic so they clearly don't put the pinch on P2P data sharing. I just clocked up 231GB of data useage in 5 days. I even phoned them to "tests" their "unlimited promise" and they said it is not tracjked for how much volume you use unlesss you reach "business proportions" in activity which =THEY deem as even higher than my usual multiple Terabytes of data useage "from my DL's and seeding at 100 to 1 or 1 week). A family can crank out vast data useage on 5 or 6devices especially with kids gaming and streaming on youtube etc, so I guess the BEST line of defence is start with the right ISP and test if they're true to the contracts they give. Plus it is not even very dear, actually near the bottom end of pricing for high speed fibre.
If the letters are gonna come thay are gonna come.
As for the question of how much of a download constitutes a movie, usually Copyrights state "in whole or any part" so a partial download would still count as infringement if they can prove it.
If you are looking for a way to prove it could be anybody using your broadband to raise enough suspicion to force the case to fall apart then show them you haven't got a password on your router (just while it is needed for proof of principle) then put it back after. Use a portable PAYG wifi hotspot to keep online during the ime the router is not password protected.
BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT is required for proving a case against you. so give them REASONABLE DOUBT. Simples.
Or get the right kind of freedom protecting Provider. Seems logical to me, but it's just my opinion. I don't believe VPNs are infallable but are OK for light use but I wouldn't pay when so many are free....
Just my view on it folks, but I know people who have used reasnable doubt to kill a case. That seemsthe best "out" if needed.
|posted by (2016-07-24 23:09:10)|
|Comcast got annoying with the alerts. No one in my household saw them until alert #3 .... no one ever saw #1 or #2. The alerts kept popping up on every page and every browser for several days on all of our devices (not our phones tho just laptops and tablets). We tried ignoring it but it would NOT go away until it was responded to.|
|I leave my router wide open. Then when I got sued my defense was...gee...I didn't know about putting a password on my wifi. My neighbor must have did it.|
I had that issue awhile back.... so i shopped around for a good VPN that actually had SPEED.... and low and behold i came across PRIVATE INTERNET ACCESS.... no more issues like these mentioned above, and no more horrible speed issues either.. Case closed.
Private Internet Access my friend.... it is the best. NO LOGS, P2P FRIENDLY.... NO LOGS.... F-A-S-T...F-A-S-T..and did i mention... NO LOGS??? lol
enjoy. go with the 1 year , best deal your gonna find..
|posted by (2016-08-13 11:27:35)|
|i got a subscription to trust zone when it works it's good but only when it works I won't be renewing my subscription to it again as I find it fails to load after a restart|
|@genzu, just drop a message to Trust.Zone contact team here https://trust.zone/contact|
|posted by (2016-08-16 18:37:01)|
|hey, may be we should repent and convert?|
|posted by (2016-08-17 04:11:14)|
|GLAD I AM FROM INDIA HERE WE DONT FACE SUCH ISSUES|
|posted by (2016-08-19 11:23:08)|
|Yes, I'm also from India and almost no issue here except some torrent sites are blocked by ISPs because of court order still you can easily access those sites with zenmate|
|@42 & @43|
Soon they will be sending notices in India too.
|I just told my ISP to go fvck themselves and go ahead and sue me (good luck garnishing my welfare check) and I'd simply get a different ISP if needed. After simply encrypting my torrent traffic haven't heard form them since.|
|I have Verizon and have gotten 5 infringement letters. Verizon FiOS has a policy that the first 2 times its a warning. The next 2 you have to watch a video about why pirating is bad and the last 2 they throttle the internet speed for 3 days. After that they stop doing anything. Verizon doesn't want to lose he $100+ a month their customers pay. So they just do the 6 strike rule as a way to shut up the government. Even the ISP's could care less about pirating. It's been over 10 years since anyone has been successfully sued for movies, music, etc. The only people at risk are those that upload dozens of movies a month. Most people like us who are mainly downloaders have nothing to fear.|
|I got zenmate works great|
|posted by (2016-08-20 11:48:16)|
|Step #1 don't have anyway they can contact you with..... End of story.. How can they contact you if you have no way to be contacted.|
|DayTripper you do know you are supposed to seed? No torrenters should be "mainly downloaders".|
|posted by (2016-08-20 22:16:04)|
|Proxy in utorrent works as far as dmca logging ips in peers or seeders|
|PIA, private internet access VPN, no logs, high speed, no problem|
|only letter i got from my isp was for downloading 187gb in a month more than my 30gb limit|
|posted by (2016-08-21 04:27:24)|
|get out of the house, get out now.|
get rid of your PC's and networking gear smash them.
destroy the HDD's all of them with a hammer then burn them.
ssd's use acid after opening the drive to melt it all and smash the remainder with hammers.
close your ISP account. Smash your phone get a burner or clean prepaid.
they're watching and have your mac addresses for everything.
find new premises and start life again.
|posted by (2016-08-21 16:40:56)|
|Trust.Zone has been working well for me and the price value is good. A few more hoops to jump though setting it up on a MAC or iOS devices, but once set up it works well. The instructions are very detailed and good.|
|hey 46 zenmate does,nt work for torrenting your ip still shows.......|
|had gotten letters too. 2 years ago from downloading 2 movies from yify. I ignored them but since i still live with my mom, my mom was stupid enough to contact them via email address. I told her not to, then she stopped doing that and 1 year later we received the same letter again. They tried to force us again to pay. This year got one too 4 Month ago. Threw it away immediately. Now always using Vpn and proxys. Anyway Trust Zone Vpn is pretty good.|
|It's also helpful to go with an independent provider.|
|I would get those here in Canada sometimes, and in the past I used an ip block program for utorrent. These days I do something much simpler that I read somewhere earlier this year, and all the notices stopped. You just need to click on the advanced properties when you load a torrent preferably from magnet tho makes no diff, and you remove the trackers.|
It will still work, always. It seeks by DHT instead. There you go. Hassle solved.
|I get a copyright infringement phone call about once every 3-6 months. As long as I don't get 2 in a 3 month period, my ISP just calls me & tells me to delete the file, run an anti-virus scan, then call them back. If I get 2, they shut my internet off til I call back. Then I have to do the same thing. They turn it back on when I call. And I have to call back within 6 hrs.|
|Well, where to begin, VPN? great idea, seedbox? even better, better still get a seedbox and run your very own VPN through it,most seedbox plans come with pre installed apps for remote access, cloud space, FTP and SFTP access to your seedbox, your ISP will not even know (or Care) what data your transferring to and from your PRIVATE cloud, and most good seedbox providers delete all logs daily.............try seednet.eu, openVPN, and bitvise for SFTP client for tunnelling.....have a look when the copyright trolls look and see the address of a data centre...they usually just give up|
|Verizon hit my next door neighbor with fines when she went to pay her bill.|
|ISP's will simply disconnect you ... use a seedbox and avoid the problems.|
|"you have just received a copyright infringement letter from your Internet Provider or government agency like RIAA, MPAA"|
Really? The RIAA & MPAA are TRADE GROUPS, not GOVERNMENT AGENCIES! If you got this basic fact WRONG, hard to imagine what else...
Oh and BTW, the individual running this site is a POS! Seen one of these lately:
Pay attention users, this SCUMBAG is NOT YOUR FRIEND any more than the TRADE GROUPS RIAA & MPAA!
|What a surprise, the link's been block. No matter, users, next time SCUMBAG shoves one of these "** YOUR COMPUTER HAS BEEN BLOCKED **" popups in your face when you're using this site, just be sure to CALL THE NUMBER it gives, and have your CREDIT CARD ready. How much of a cut do you get from these, SCUMBAG???|
|India is going the same way Latest is a fine & prison too.|
|Dude don't worry about it.just thow the letter away. I got one of them before.|
|Don't listen to the Trolls on this tread that say VPN's don't protect you while torrenting, they most certainly do (if your a crook is another story)|
But make sure they do not log. The ones that don't log prominently state they don't.
Check out Torrentfreak com and just search "VPN" they do a survey every year of the best ones.
Also ISP's don't care what you do they just care you pay your bill every month they are not in the business of policing what there user do with there connection.
That may not be the case if you are in the UK (sorry) seems everything is a bit different there like driving on the wrong side of the road haha
In the US there are no data retention laws, including for VPN providers so is actually a good place to choose one.
That does not mean the ISP don't keep logs, they do about how much bandwidth you use some areas and providers have data caps (bummer) some don't.
Some may even keep logs of what site users visit and traffic type, maybe they sell it as meta data or use it for traffic shaping (??)
Your in there house when you use there servers so technically they can do anything they want.
Again good article on TF about all that.
Unless you get official document from the court it means nothing but time to get a VPN or proxy service.
In many recent court cases judges will state and IP address is not enough for a civil case or conviction to happen (USA) or even a court case to proceed, if you do end up in court do get a lawyer that is familiar with these type cases anyway.
I have been torrenting for many years and use hugh amounts of bandwidth and have never had a problem while using my VPN service.
I don't care to say which provider I use but I will say I only use OpenVPN connection and I usually get most of the bandwidth I pay my ISP for with it.
|posted by (2016-09-10 10:08:08)|
|I have tried numerous VPNs (Nord,PIA,IPvanish,Express et al) but have always come back to Trust Zone. Where I am located I have no speed complaints. The Kill switch actually works without taking out my Wifi adaptor's driver. Nord comes in a close second (speed and selective attitude towards which servers will do P2P being issues which I found unsatisfactory). I have no ties apart from being a regular user to this site and recognise that others may well get different results depending on their geographical location.|
|posted by (2016-09-12 20:32:58)|
|how many people till today they have arrested zero? all is bull sh*t. ISP must go fck them self and those making money out of it..... no one can stop peoples torranting ......|
|use FTP instead|
|posted by (2016-09-13 08:29:00)|
|What is the point of using internet thru a VPN? They are obligated by law to release your real IP address anyway! It just will take a couple of days longer for law enforcement to get to your ISP!|
All you need to do is switch on encryption in your torrent client.
|I've been using a VPN ever since my first letter from Fios. Just make sure the VPN you choose in not located in the US. Avoiding DNS leaks and having a automatic kill switch is beneficial as well. Reading is all you need guys, read until the capacity of your brain is expanded beyond the normal limit.|
|The single most important thing you should do is to stop using public sites. Only use private sites. The good private sites have their own browsers that make you anonymous and allow you to access the site from countries that block the site. Plus there are numerous other benefits to a private site. I only go to a public site once in a blue moon and for a specific reason. This is the only time I have commented on a public site and I've been in the game since 1999. I've heard rumors that this site is next on the list to be taken down. True or not I don't know. There is no logical reason whatsoever to use a public torrent site. There are many ways to get an invite to a private one.|
|I use Hidemyass.com VPN Ip Address service. I use the FREE service. I have never had a problem. I set it up on my home built router, I have 200 VPN addresses and it jumps from one to another every 30min... easy to build and works so much better then all the other crap.. just buy a old 133MHz computer with 32mb ram and a floppy drive, add PCI wireless card and a ethernet card and your gold....... I upgraded to a hard drive in it when I customized the software it has a 4gb drive but its only using like 400MB of that. I have Brighthouse and they WILL shut you down after 3 warnings..... I travel all the time so most of my downloading is done by remote accessing the systems at home... also its much hard for them to track linux then windows, if you use a global VPN you should be ok....|
|i dont particularly like vpns they suck and when i try to download torrents off of them it slows my speed way down and also the internet company i use doesnt send me crap about me pirating anything so im glad our ISP doesnt do that|
|posted by (2016-12-16 00:35:40)|
|In the last probably 12-13 years of torrenting (since Supernova.org days - yes I bought and still have the T-Shirts! albeit with some holes in it nowadays lol) I have NEVER received one of these notices. I don't hide anything. I'm completely out there for everyone to see. I'm in Australia. I honestly think a majority of Aussies (I can't speak for all) just don't give a rat's ass about downloading stuff, be it pirated or not. We just simply don't give a shit.|
|I've been switching back and forth between Seedr (free account with 3 gig) and Windscribe (free account with 50 gig/month). I don't torrent enough to justify a paid VPN or cloud service since I mostly use Usenet. I use torrents if a show or movie isn't up yet, or if a show or movie was pulled or incomplete. So far, with Windscribe, the speeds have been great. I regularly get 3 mbit downloads (which is my usual without a VPN), and Seedr is even faster if the torrent is already in the cloud. I did try out a couple of well known VPN trials and the speeds were disnmal.|
|thanks for the info, some good tips to avoid trouble.|
|I liked TORguard and PIA.|
Americans have it easy, just dispose of any evidence when supoena'd and when questioned just say you didn't "intend" to violate the law.
What? It worked for Hillary right?
|Step 1: Move to Canada|
Step 2: See step 1.
|posted by (2017-01-30 09:51:37)|
|In reply to the donate comments. I never figured out how you actually obtain bitcoins in the first place.|
|FrootVPN has been a good provider and they have various national IP addresses available if you need a specific location for downloads (e.g. UK IP address is needed to use BBC iPlayer).|
|My ISP sucks exactly what its namne suggests COX.. We only have internet and theres 5 of us all heavey users and internet savvy. We started getting notices every week then Cox would block our service till we had clicked on something that said we had checked for and deleted the copyright material. Then we had to start calling and litening to their bs etc. We got Torguard VPN $40 a yearbut havent had 1 problem or peep from Cox again since|
|posted by (2017-02-02 05:21:21)|
|people you cant be that stupid to get a Vpn from illegal site when it goes down you will be in the sh1t house with nothing all sites get nailed its just matter of time then what you invested your cash to get screwed over with NO Vpn and they are money laundering get PIA private internet access or you will be holing your d1ck in your hands i just keeping it real i see they keep pushing there crap|
|posted by (2017-02-11 02:48:21)|
|Gotta couple from comcast, Didnt pay no atention to them, nothing ever happened, All they care about is there bill being paid|
|Thanks for info|
|my dad got a comcast email about me pirating an anime show known as bleach and i was shocked since ive been torrenting for about 2 years before the CAS was activated and now thank god its a dead service but still theyre always trying to get u scared but thank god i dont use comcast anymore i hate their internet it sucks|
|posted by (2017-03-11 08:22:54)|
|Every retard is a network specialist these days...|
One brainless shithead even blabbers something about a 100W PC router. Should be shot and dropped in a biogas barrel.
|I got three warning from FIOS, then on the fourth, they blocked the internet until I went to their walled garden and read about the Perils of Piracy. The fifth time, they also slowed down my 50up/50down to 256k. The sixth time, down to 128k (both times for 2 weeks). When I asked them what happens if there is a next time, they said "nothing", no warnings, no slow down, BUT... if the copyright holder asks, they may have to turn over. Since then I use PRIVATE INTERNET ACCESS. But I just use the PPTP/L2TP/SOCKS part set up in uTorrent (SOCKS5). Haven't gotten another "warning" since.|
|I've been using NordVPN, seems ok (and cheap!). They're based in Panama and they don't keep logs. I run PeerBlock too, as an added precaution.|
|Kunty, your avatar is gangster as f***||
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